LS.,
Ik weet niet helemaal waar ik dit bericht moet posten, maar hoop dat Bob dit berichtje eventueel op de juiste plek zet...(in ieder geval niet in de categorie "leuk én interessant". Interessant is onderstaande wel, maar leuk niet....).
Ik heb eerder getwijfeld of ik onze forumleden wel moest vermoeien met onderstaande, maar kennelijk is dit geen incident. Aldus:
https://www.kaffee-netz.de/threads/betr ... ka.129233/
Het zal geen waarschuwing zijn aan een hele brede groep leden, maar die kleine selectie die zich bezig houdt met aankopen in het buitenland van relatief kostbare machines (het ging hier om een Faema Velox), zijn hierbij serieus gewaarschuwd. Ik post het complete email-verkeer (laatste bericht staat bovenaan). Uiteindelijk ben ik niet in de val gelopen, omdat de oplichter maar niet met nieuwe foto's over de brug wilde (kon) komen. Wellicht heeft iemand er iets aan in de toekomst...ter lering (en toch ook een beetje) vermaak.
Cheers, TY
From: Rob O <obrienrob2@gmail.com>
Date: vr 19 apr. 2019 08:12
Subject: Re: TY schreibt bezüglich „Faema Thermo Velox Espressomaschine“ – markt.de Anzeige (Kennung: bd2b1a65)
To: TY TY <TY.account@gmail.com>
Please don`t write me back again. i offered a risk free way to do the deal and you`re still freaking out ! at this point i am afraid to do the dea with you because i think you won`t even bother to pick up the machine from the transport company.
buy a machine locally
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 07:56, TY TY <TY.account@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Richard, thanks for your reply.
I appreciate your situation, but we cannot move forward without proper proof that the machine is still in your possession. Apologies for the extra precaution measures, but you are a new and unfamiliar seller to me.
Please take some time to get extra pictures. There is no rush since time is required for proper arangements. Looking forward hearing from you.
Best regards TY
Op vr 19 apr. 2019 07:31 schreef Rob O <obrienrob2@gmail.com>:
Dear TY,
I apologize for replying so late but again, i want to point out that my time is so limited as i just moved and i haven`t even finished unpacking everything and beside that, i work in army and i often do 24-48 hrs shifts so that`s why. Unfortunately i do not have enough time to get more photos, the machine is in the custody of the shipping company and also some of my other stuff as well since i have moved in an apartment here i don`t have enough space to storage everything.
I offered you a simple and reliable option to do this deal, probably my wife is going to make all the necessary arrangements, i assume that i have explained everything and that you understood the process. So as you can see i am the only one who is taking the risks here and i am willing to do this because i know that you`ll be satisfied about the machine.
So please think about it and let me know if i should start the transaction or not.
I appreciate and keep in touch.
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 20:18, TY account <TY.account@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Richard,
I am wondering if you have been able to read my email...
Looking forward hearing from you.
Best regards, TY
Op 4/17/2019 om 3:05 PM schreef Rob O:
TY,
The total cost will be 1400 eur. The machine will be sent from Portugal. I will use Parcel To Go, website: https://www.parcel2go.com/ and you may ask them more details at: parceltogo@europe.com Is the service that deals with delivery for Ebay, Amazon and other shopping websites.
Also my details are: Name: Richard O'Brien and i live at: Bento Cardoso street, Braga,zip 4810-433, Portugal
Like i told you, you will be asked to pay at the shippers into their account, not mine. The money will be insured by them with the possibility to to get the money back if the machine won't met your expectations or if you will find anything wrong with it. They will offer you only 3 days to make a decision upon keeping it or not but i can offer you a side warranty of 30 days of money back guarantee.
This being said you may proceed with checking the shipper and take some time to reflect on this deal and when you have decided please do let me know about your intentions. If you accept to move forward with this sale don't forget to email me your delivery details such as complete name and address with your phone number. The shipping should take approx 1 week.
I hope that i answered to all your concerns and if you have any other questions or anything else that has to be cleared before we start the transaction don`t hesitate to ask.
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 14:36, TY TY <TY.account@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Rob,
Thanks for the infos.
Can you tell me something about the history of the machine? Who carried out the service, for example?
Did you relocate the machine to Portugal or is it still in Germany?
I would appreciate some extra pictures, as a proof that the machine is actually in your possession. Apologies for seeming suspicious, internet fraud is lurking around everywhere.
The procedure makes total sense to me. Can you give me the name/contacts of the shipment company?
In addition I would also like to receive your full name, complete address and a phone number where you can be reached (I assume it will also be on the contract).
We agreed 1400 euro incl insured shipment to my adress. Can you confirm?
Best regards, TY
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 13:52, Rob O <obrienrob2@gmail.com> wrote:
TY,
I attached photos with it. It works perfect, has recently been serviced and i see no reason why you will not be satisfied about it. I will explain exactly how the delivery and payment process works, please read the next part carefully so there are no misunderstandings:
1. First I go at the transport company, I give them the unit and start our transaction and the delivery process.
2. The company will send you an email to confirm the machine is in their possession and they will provide you with shipping details and payment information.
3. You send the money to the transport company and they will keep the money for you until you receive the machine.
4. After the transport company receives your payment confirmation, they will start the transportation to your location.
5. After you receive the espresso machine, you have 3 days to inspect it and decide if you want to keep it or not.
After the 3 days inspection period is over, you have 2 options:
Option 1: You decide to keep it. in this case, the transport company will give me the money you sent to them. Our transaction is closed successfully.
Option 2: You decide not to keep it. in this case, the transport company will give you your money back and they will cancel the transaction.
So, as you can see, the transaction is 100% safe and we are both protected.
If you are ready to move forward, please email me with your full name, complete address (street, number, city, postal code .etc) and a phone number where you can be reached.
After I receive these information from you, I will arrange the transaction. Of course there will be a contract of sale, a bill of sale and an invoice for you.
I wait for your reply.
Thank you
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 10:53, TY TY <TY.account@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Rob, thanks for your reply. Your suggestion sounds good although we need to work on the details. I would appreciate some additional pictures. Can you send some from different angles of the machine? You can send as many as you want.
If the machine is in the shape as presented earlier I definately want to close a deal with you.
Looking forward to your response.
Regards TY
Op di 16 apr. 2019 10:19 schreef Rob O <obrienrob2@gmail.com>:
Hello Merijin,
I apologize for my late reply but i did not had time to check my email because i have been relocated to Portugal, due to my work. The espresso machine is still for sale and if you want to close this deal with me, I will have to arrange shipping from here (I will pay the delivery cost).
I will send you the unit with an international shipping company to handle the transaction for us.
By using this company and their services, you receive the machine before I receive the money because the transport company has a purchase protection program and we will use this service to close our transaction. We will be both protected and our transaction will be 100% safe.
I have done this before and i was very pleased about it.
Using this delivery company we have a few advantages:
- This protection program was made exactly for this kind of transaction.
- You receive the espresso machine and inspect it, before I receive the money, so there is no risk for you.
- You have 3 days for inspection after you receive it and decide if you want to buy it or not.
- The transportation is insured, so if anything happens with it during transportation, the delivery company will pay for it. If you are interested in closing this deal with me, please tell me and I will explain exactly how the process works.
I wait for your reply.
Thank you
On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at 20:26, TY account <TY.account@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Rob,
Please let me know how to proceed. If this machine is no longer available, I would appreciate it if you would let me know.
Best regards, TY
Op 4/10/2019 om 7:49 PM schreef Rob O:
Hallo,
Erhielt ich Ihre E-Mail in Bezug auf meine Anzeige . Ja , das Angebot zur Verfügung.
Bitte entschuldigen Sie die Fehler, die in dieser Email sein könnte , aber Deutsch ist nicht meine Muttersprache und ich verwende " Google Dienste " zu übersetzen. Wenn Sie können, schreiben Sie bitte auf Englisch , sonst werde ich mit meinem schlechten Deutsch weiter. Vielen Dank für Ihr Interesse und ich bin für Ihre Antwort warten so bald wie möglich .
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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