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iskanda schreef: zo 26 nov 2023, 16:53
fransg schreef: do 31 aug 2023, 21:09 Klopt, daarom verbaasde het mij laatst ook van de man van de Xenia hier te lezen dat hij weer een heel nieuwe versie aan het ontwikkelen is om energie te besparen. Voor je het weet geef je 4000 euro extra uit om een dubbeltje te besparen.
It is important to work on this climate crisis - at least to have done what is possible.

And our intention is to transfer the results to our other machines (if possible).
I appreciate and admire the effort!
LONDINIUM R24 & VECTIS - etzMAX - Niche - Honne Hedone - COMPAK R120->GRRR - PUQpress - FZ94 - Tonino

Re: Maandje koffiehobby

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ErikvW schreef:Mijn Strega heeft de afgelopen 30 dagen 28,48 kWh verbruikt. 3/4 shots per dag, in het weekend wat meer en dan laat ik hem ook wel eens een dagje aan staan. Lijkt inderdaad nogal mee te vallen.
Ik zit nu met Londinium R op 25,14 kWh afgelopen 30 dagen. Wel interesaant om een referentie te hebben, dank voor de info!
Numbers are good but never loose the focus, a quality cup profile is not negotiable!

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gilleko B. schreef:Ja dat op opinie of commercieel (op niet wetenschappelijk basis) gebaseerde klimaat idioterie is wel een ding. Dadelijk verbod op koffiebranden
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Ooit betaalden we belasting over de hoeveelheid ramen in een huis, we lachen er nu om maar er is niet veel veranderd...over 100 jaar lachen we hier waarschijnlijk ook om.
Numbers are good but never loose the focus, a quality cup profile is not negotiable!

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bobbee schreef:
gilleko B. schreef:Ja dat op opinie of commercieel (op niet wetenschappelijk basis) gebaseerde klimaat idioterie is wel een ding. Dadelijk verbod op koffiebranden
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Ooit betaalden we belasting over de hoeveelheid ramen in een huis, we lachen er nu om maar er is niet veel veranderd...over 100 jaar lachen we hier waarschijnlijk ook om.
Mooie reactie maar die 100 jaar zie ik graag exponentieel korter
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gilleko B. schreef: zo 26 nov 2023, 18:41
bobbee schreef:
gilleko B. schreef:Ja dat op opinie of commercieel (op niet wetenschappelijk basis) gebaseerde klimaat idioterie is wel een ding. Dadelijk verbod op koffiebranden
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Ooit betaalden we belasting over de hoeveelheid ramen in een huis, we lachen er nu om maar er is niet veel veranderd...over 100 jaar lachen we hier waarschijnlijk ook om.
Mooie reactie maar die 100 jaar zie ik graag exponentieel korter
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Nobody knows what will be in 100 years (or less). But I think that the chance that anybody will laugh about it, is not very high.

However...we consider it is our task to improve coffee machines with boilers by reducing the energy consumption as much as possible. But we delivery not only the reduction of energy consumption, but we also provide also a lot of features you will hardly find on other machines.

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iskanda schreef:
gilleko B. schreef: zo 26 nov 2023, 18:41
bobbee schreef:Ooit betaalden we belasting over de hoeveelheid ramen in een huis, we lachen er nu om maar er is niet veel veranderd...over 100 jaar lachen we hier waarschijnlijk ook om.
Mooie reactie maar die 100 jaar zie ik graag exponentieel korter
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Nobody knows what will be in 100 years (or less). But I think that the chance that anybody will laugh about it, is not very high.

However...we consider it is our task to improve coffee machines with boilers by reducing the energy consumption as much as possible. But we delivery not only the reduction of energy consumption, but we also provide also a lot of features you will hardly find on other machines.
It's certainly a good marketing point and I hope you will sell a lot of xenia machines because of this climate thing going on. If someone really thinks he will destroy our globe by using energy for all kind of things I would advice them to stop heating up a coffee boiler machine every day for 2 or 3 espressos and stop drinking roasted coffee heated by gas or electricity.
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These are just my thoughts. Maybe in the next 100 years I will think diffirent about this but in the meantime I will enjoy my espresso.
Numbers are good but never loose the focus, a quality cup profile is not negotiable!

Re: Maandje koffiehobby

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bobbee schreef: zo 26 nov 2023, 19:20
iskanda schreef:
gilleko B. schreef: zo 26 nov 2023, 18:41 Mooie reactie maar die 100 jaar zie ik graag exponentieel korter
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Nobody knows what will be in 100 years (or less). But I think that the chance that anybody will laugh about it, is not very high.

However...we consider it is our task to improve coffee machines with boilers by reducing the energy consumption as much as possible. But we delivery not only the reduction of energy consumption, but we also provide also a lot of features you will hardly find on other machines.
It's certainly a good marketing point and I hope you will sell a lot of xenia machines because of this climate thing going on. If someone really thinks he will destroy our globe by using energy for all kind of things I would advice them to stop heating up a coffee boiler machine every day for 2 or 3 espressos and stop drinking roasted coffee heated by gas or electricity.
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These are just my thoughts. Maybe in the next 100 years I will think diffirent about this but in the meantime I will enjoy my espresso.
We sell our machines because the unique features.

The 303 is my own project as I like the challenge and I think it is important to start such projects and try to improve things.

The project 303 is less commercial as you think. We plan 20 machines / year.

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iskanda schreef:
bobbee schreef: zo 26 nov 2023, 19:20
iskanda schreef: Nobody knows what will be in 100 years (or less). But I think that the chance that anybody will laugh about it, is not very high.

However...we consider it is our task to improve coffee machines with boilers by reducing the energy consumption as much as possible. But we delivery not only the reduction of energy consumption, but we also provide also a lot of features you will hardly find on other machines.
It's certainly a good marketing point and I hope you will sell a lot of xenia machines because of this climate thing going on. If someone really thinks he will destroy our globe by using energy for all kind of things I would advice them to stop heating up a coffee boiler machine every day for 2 or 3 espressos and stop drinking roasted coffee heated by gas or electricity.
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These are just my thoughts. Maybe in the next 100 years I will think diffirent about this but in the meantime I will enjoy my espresso.
We sell our machines because the unique features.

The 303 is my own project as I like the challenge and I think it is important to start such projects and try to improve things.

The project 303 is less commercial as you think. We plan 20 machines / year.
But I didn't question your beautiful creations just the different points of view about this climate thing going on and I really grant you a good business, you deserve it with all your hard work.
I don't think we shouldn't care about our space ship earth and take our responsibility, it's just this political approach going on worldwide of solving a problem with taxes etc. It has always been the same.
Numbers are good but never loose the focus, a quality cup profile is not negotiable!